In 1993, a first time director named David Fincher was brought on to direct the third Alien film of that fabled franchise. Though the script had been rewritten numerous times, Fincher's debut film, Alien 3, has become a cult classic and been re-evaluated as a great sci-fi thriller. Whether the director to this day still has some issues with it, the film brought him to international attention and from there on, he has been considered one of our modern masters.
His second film Seven (Se7en) is considered one of the best horror thrillers of the last 25 years. The film includes Brad Pitt in a role that would make him a star, Morgan Freeman in a role that would turn him into a leading man, and also Gwyneth Paltrow and Kevin Spacey in early and unforgettable career roles. Written by Andrew Kevin Walker, the screenplay is about retiring and glum Detective Somerset who is dragged into investigating a new set of murders based on the Seven Deadly Sins. He is teamed up with the young and ambitious Detective David Mills who is gung-ho, but maybe just a little too much.
Just as we have on every 50th episode, Dark Discussions chooses a classic and decides to discuss what the film is all about. Seven is one of those movies that really digs deep into both the human mind and people's motives. Everything from what defines evil to the way society builds and forms itself, Seven takes a look at the dark side of human life and asks many questions on what motivates us all. Get ready to listen to our second part of our 150th episode on one of the best films in genre cinema.
Welcome to the 150th episode of Dark Discussions ... well, at least the first part. Though we have a discussion of one of the best genre films in sometime, prior to the talk, we discussed the various things that have gone on these past couple of weeks and talk about them.
Things that are brought up in conversation books: Jonathan Kellerman's The Murder Book, John Sandford's Rules of Prey, and Stephen King's Doctor Sleep. Mike and Abe give their review of Guardians of the Galaxy. Films including Lucy, Hercules, The Sacrament, Lake Placid, Burnt Offerings, and Sharknado 2 are spoken of. Television programming including Doctor Who, The Strain and The Leftovers are brought up. The manga, King's Game, is given some airtime. And (at the time), upcoming films Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Into the Storm are brought up, including our thoughts.
But also the passing of three important people in the genre occurred: Marilyn Burns, star of The Texas Chain Saw Massacre, makeup man Dick Smith, and author/podcaster Lawrence Santoro. Dark Discussions speaks fondly of the three and we wrap up this episode as we get ready for Part 2 of episode 150 where we discuss ... check back in a few days.
A cult classic ... what makes a cult classic and why? Well, the 1997 film, Event Horizon, is definitely one of those type of films. Similar to Alien 3, when it was first released the critics thumbed their nose at it, but the visuals and ideas behind the screenplay were very intriguing and have kept the movie alive with a group of fans vehemently defending it and giving it a second life with the home market.
Now almost 20 years later, the film has been re-evaluated, and though hasn't gained the status of other "failed films" like John Carpenter's The Thing, it still has things that make it an interesting watch. First, this is one of the early films of English director Paul W. S. Anderson, most famous for the Resident Evil films. Also the screenplay was reworked by Andrew Kevin Walker, most famous for writing Seven, most certainly leaving his mark on this film.
Dark Discussions discusses this film, a listener choice in our monthly Facebook poll, and talks about Paul W. S. Anderson as a director, the huge amount of cut and now lost footage that would be intriguing to see in a longer version of the film, and the movie's place in both the science fiction and horror genre canons. Whether the film is worthy of that cult classic status may not be answered but your hosts most certainly give it their best in the discussion rundown.
In 2011, Rise of the Planet of the Apes, a new reboot of the Pierre Boulle novel, appeared on the big screen. After the disappointment of the 2001 Tim Burton film, the Hollywood studio seemed to already write this new version off as a failure even before its release. However, to their surprise, the film not only received great reviews but it also drew in huge crowds and became one of the best films of the year. Now 2014 we have the follow up, Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, which itself has received fantastic reviews.
Taking place 11 years after the first, where 90% of humanity has died from the ALZ-113 virus (also known as the simian flu), survivors in San Francisco head out towards Muir Woods to see if they can get an electrical dam's turbines running in hope of bringing electricity back. However, they discover an unexpected surprise; the genetically changed apes from the first film have created a society there and now two civilizations are about to collide. And yet the genuine danger may not be each other but instead may come from within.
Dark Discussions talks about this new movie. The interesting thing is where each of your co-hosts are coming from. Abe had not seen the first film and is not too familiar with the older franchise. Mike beloves the original film series and comes in with a somewhat biased perspective. And both Phil and Eric are familiar with the other movies but are coming in simply looking to see a good film. Get onboard and listen to what we have to say about the new film. And honestly, there were no lame jokes about "Hey, I saw you multiple times in the film."
Oddly this episode was supposed to be about the 2009 remake of The Last House on the Left, directed by Dennis Iliadis. However, the topic switches to the notorious original 1972 movie as well where we compare, contrast, and discuss both films and their place in genre film history.
The original, starring David Hess and produced by Friday the 13th's creator Sean Cunningham and written and directed by Wes Craven, with its famous catch phrase It's Only a Movie, shocked audiences everywhere. Raw and rough, in comparison the 2009 remake featuring Sara Paxton is well made and in some quarters (specifically Stephen King) considered a masterpiece.
Dark Discussions talks about the original's, and in some ways heavy handed, message disguised in grindhouse. We discuss Stephen King's opinion which he wrote about in a Fangoria magazine article, how the original jumped started Wes Craven and Sean Cunningham's career, why the remake is such a well received film despite its subject matter, and compare other classic genre films to the original and why the 1972 film is not considered in the same category as its contemporaries.
During the mid-2000's, with the DVD market beginning to spawn and the internet becoming an everyday tool, smaller independent movies, including genre films, from all over the world began to reach audiences everywhere. Directors such as Neil Marshall, Gaspar Noé, Christopher Smith, the Pang Brothers, among others became known to the genre fan masses. One of those filmmakers was Greg McLean, an Australian. And his film Wolf Creek appeared in 2005.
The film played at such prestigious events as the Sundance Film Festival and the Cannes Film Festival. Immediately the internet went abuzz about this very raw old school film with its unusual screenplay structure, throwback aesthetics, and very frank depiction of violence. Some, including Roger Ebert, thought the film to be nothing more than appalling while others, including Slant Magazine, thought it to be one of the best films of the decade.
With such polarizing opinions, the film garnered its large cult status. However as time has passed, its harshness has dimmed a bit letting the film fall naturally into genre film canon. One question asked is why did it take nine years for the sequel? Strange as that may be, it has arrived. And both Wolf Creek and its follow up Wolf Creek 2 have the ever charismatic actor John Jarratt portraying the mysterious character Mick Taylor. Your co-hosts discuss the two films and give their opinions.